Fallen Angels in Islam Q&A

August 11, 2020 June 25, 2025

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From the Realities of Mawlana (Q) as taught by Shaykh Nurjan Mirahmadi.

أَعُوذُ بِاللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيطَانِ الرَّجِيمِ
بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْمِ

A’uzu Billahi Minash Shaitanir Rajeem
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

I seek refuge in Allah from the accursed Satan
In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful

Alhamdulillahi Rabbil ‘aalameen, was salaatu was salaamu ‘alaa Ashrafil Mursaleen, Sayyidina wa Mawlana Muhammadul Mustafa ﷺ. Madad ya Sayyidi ya Rasulul Kareem, Ya Habibul ‘Azeem, unzur halana wa ishfa’lana, ‘abidona bi madadikum wa nazarekum.

Atiullah wa atiur Rasul wa Ulil amre minkum. Always a reminder for myself, ana abdukal ‘ajeez, wa dayeef, wa miskin, wa zhalim, wa jahl, and but for the grace of Allah (AJ) that we’re still in existence.

أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُم… ﴿٥٩﴾‏ …

4:59 – “…Atiullaha wa atiur Rasula wa Ulil amre minkum…” (Surat an-Nisa)

“…Obey Allah, obey the Messenger, and those in authority among you…” (The Women, 4:59)

Question: Ya Sayyidi, we thought angels never change. Then how to understand how angel became and changed to Iblis (satan)? Was Iblis his character always and was exposed?

Shaykh Nurjan Mirahmadi (Q): Iblis was a jinn (unseen being) and his worshipness was so strong and that was always the example. That tariqah (spiritual path) comes and teaches that some people, they have a lot of himmah (zeal) in which they do whatever they want to do. They do it and they do it and they do it. They say for 70,000 years, he worshipped Allah (AJ) in which he made a sujood (prostration) everywhere. There is nowhere from earth into the heavens that he did not make his sujood and his worshipness for Allah (AJ).

But because his worshipness was based at his own time and his own pace and the way he wanted, he didn’t know that his actions were filled with arrogance. Allah (AJ) allowed him to continue until he reached the station of heavens in which the angels would come to his associations of teachings. When he would give a bayaan (discourse), they were listening. That’s where awliyaullah (saints) come to teach us – is not only the bayaan that come to you, say, ‘Oh, it is very interesting talk he had.’ But the guy is yelling and screaming and every other word he is spitting form his mouth. He is exhibiting characteristics that are not with the love and the muhabbat of Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ. The one talking must always assume that Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ is straight in front of you, looking at you while you’re giving bayaan. You cannot yell. You cannot scream. You cannot become insulting. You cannot do anything that would make the presence of Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ to leave that bayaan. That’s what they call their madad (support) and their support. Because all their shaykhs come with a Muhammadan light. So, when the shaykh is coming, he is coming with a Muhammadan light. As if Prophet ﷺ is in front of them in a Muhammadan dress.

So, it means that then shaitan (satan) was exhibiting characteristics and the angels were being dressed by it. That’s why Allah (AJ) wanted to show when He said, ‘The khalifa (representative), bow down,’ to show their taslim (submission) and this was a sujood al ihtiram (prostration of respect) and the angels went into sujood, except shaitan. He didn’t.

وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ ﴿٣٤﴾

2:34 – “Wa idh qulna lilmalayikati osjudo li Adama fasajado illa ibleesa aba wastakbara wa kana minal kafireen.” (Surat Al-Baqarah)

“And [mention] when We said to the angels, ‘Bow Down/make prostration to Adam’; so they prostrated, except for Iblis. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers/who reject faith.” (The Cow, 2:34)

Then the angels, they came back up to look and they saw, ‘Oh!’ They scared that he is not making sujood to Allah (AJ) and they went down again. That’s why we make the two sujood. They made one, came up and they saw he is still not bowing. They were scared and went back into sujood. When they got up and finished, then the ones whom had been his students, they took it to ask a question. Say, ‘Why the khalifa?’ That’s what Allah (AJ) wanted to bring as an example. Those angels that Allah (AJ) allowed them to even speak so that to be as an example.

Harut and Marut were two other angels. There are stories of angels falling. When Allah (AJ) want to test them for whatever reason, Allah (AJ) does whatever Allah (AJ) wants to do. You don’t say, ‘No, it can’t be done.’ When the two angels, when Allah (AJ) was describing later in creation that look how difficult their life is on this earth, how much they have challenges from shaitan coming after them. There were angels thinking, ‘That’s not so hard. Why don’t they just stay pure like us?’ Then Allah (AJ) told to Harut and Marut, ‘If you think that’s easy, then We’ll make you to go down. I’ll give you Ismullah al-Azam in which you go and you become human at that time. Live amongst them. But if you should commit a sin, immediately you will stay in that realm and you’ll no longer be allowed to repeat that name to come into the heavens.’

They thought they were on a very easy mission, ‘We’re going to go there and it is going to be great and we’re going to show how you should be as an angel in this realm.’ The minute they came in, they went to a maikhana (tavern) where they were drinking in a tavern. They said, ‘Wow, this is like…these humans have it great,’ and they started to drink. As soon as they’re drinking, they saw a very beautiful woman. They said, ‘Wow, these human women are something else,’ because now they’re in a human form. They use that name to come in human form. So, they went and approached the beautiful woman. She was waving say, ‘Come, come.’ So, they went and approach.

Said, ‘Do you want to be with me?’ and (angels) said, ‘Okay.’

(Woman) said, ‘But I have you to do one thing for me.’ (Angels) say, ‘What?’

Say, ‘Kill my husband.’ And (angels) said, ‘Hmm?’

(Woman), ‘Kill my husband.’ (Angels) said, ‘Okay.’ They went and they killed the husband. They’re cut. Then they cried and repented, ‘We don’t know what happened to us, ya Rabbi. We came, we drank from their drinks that we don’t have in heaven and we lost our mind and we went after a woman. We’ve never seen a woman before. We wanted her. We said we’ll do whatever you want and she asked us kill this man. We killed him and now we don’t know how to go back.’ Say, ‘Go back? For all of eternity, you’re on this earth.’

…وَمَا كَفَرَ سُلَيْمَانُ وَلَـٰكِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ كَفَرُوا يُعَلِّمُونَ النَّاسَ السِّحْرَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَى الْمَلَكَيْنِ بِبَابِلَ هَارُوتَ وَمَارُوتَ ۚ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ حَتَّىٰ يَقُولَا إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ فِتْنَةٌ فَلَا تَكْفُرْ ۖ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنْهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِ بَيْنَ الْمَرْءِ وَزَوْجِهِ ۚ وَمَا هُم بِضَارِّينَ بِهِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّـهِ ۚ … ﴿١٠٢﴾

2:102 – “…wa maa kafara Sulaimaanu wa laakinnash Shayatteena kafaroo, yu’al limoonan naasas sihra, wa maaa unzila ‘alal malakayni bi Baabila Haaroota wa Maaroot; wa maa yu’allimaani min ahadin hattaa yaqoolaa, innamaa nahnu fitnatun falaa takfur; fayata’al lamoona minhumaa maa yufarriqoona bihee baynal maryi wa zawjih; wa maa hum bidaarrina bihee min ahadin illaa bi iznillah;..” (Surat Al-Baqarah)

“…It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed/came down to the two angels Harut and Marut, at Babylon. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, “We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic].” And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah…” (The Cow, 2:102)

This Harut wa Marut were thrown into the well of Babel and they’re held upside down inside that well still till today. Where all the magicians, they make their ziyarah (pilgrimage) to that well and they ask from those angels, the magic of deceit. So, the knowledges of this magic are real. Because it is coming from these angels. They give a warning that, ‘Before we tell you this, know that you will be eternally punished.’ Because Allah (AJ) describes in Qur’an, they give a disclaimer that we are angels of the heavens and that Allah (AJ) will punish you. They will take that knowledges regardless of the threat of punishment. The majority of the angelic knowledges they take is how to break families. So, the satanic empire is very big on how to break relationships and break families.

Question: Sayyidi, are big sins also forgiven with Durood Sharif (praising on Prophet Muhammad ﷺ)?

Shaykh Nurjan Mirahmadi (Q): InshaAllah, all sins forgiven. What is big and what is small? There is a physics and science apps now that you can look and say look into the universe. You take this leaf and then begin to zoom out, zoom out, zoom out. It goes outside of the earth, goes outside the galaxy, goes out to the milky way, goes out into space. You can no longer even see the dot of the Earth. Allah (AJ) – how many billions of galaxies and universes Allah (AJ) has? Aren’t you astonished that He even knows who you are? Right? This, Allahu Akbar (Allah (AJ) is the Greatest) that, ‘Ya Rabbi, the vastness of everything – are You sure who I am? Did anybody forget me up there?’ He says, ‘Not a single breath you make, I forgot. Not a single step you make, I have not written for you.’

So, when Allah (AJ) says, ‘Everything is in a hisaab (account)’ but with that vastness and greatness Allah (AJ) want to rip you to pieces for what? Why Allah (AJ) created you? He want you to make your istighfar (seeking forgiveness), want you to understand that, ‘You are of a sinning nature. Your nation sins and never tires from sinning and I’m not tired of forgiving them.’

This way is a way of muhabbat (love) and rahmah (mercy). This is what makes the greatness of Allah (AJ). Otherwise, what would make Allah (AJ) great? Where the angels were astonished that, ‘How come they do so many bad things and You forgive them?’ That’s when you say, ‘SubhanAllah, Allah (AJ) is Kareem (The Most Generous). Allah (AJ) is generous because the servants are sinning. If all the servants were good, how would you know the greatness of Allah (AJ)? But it is because we’re bad, because we‘re doing wrong things and because Allah (AJ) forgiving us and raising us.

The game is stacked in our favour. Allah (AJ) manipulated the game for you to win. Why? Your hasanat (goodness) is ten and your sayyiat (sins) is one. So, every time you go out and sin. Right? Tomorrow you go out, sin, it is 1. Come in the next day say ‘Tawbah (repentance), ya Rabbi’, you got 10. Oh so, I’m now 9 ahead! As long as you keeping good count because you don’t want to go 10 times bad and then you only got 1. No doubt – so alhamdulillah, Allah (AJ) stacked the game in our favour. That, that which we can’t clean, that’s why we talked last night on istighfar. Making astaghfirullah al-‘Azim (I seek forgiveness of Allah the Magnificent) – when awliyaullah put these words together for us. It is by sifat al-‘Azim (The Attribute of Magnificence) that, ‘Ya Rabbi, Your Might and Your Magnificence – I’m asking isitghfar from that power, ya Rabbi – which all universes are in Your command. I’m so small, blow away my sin.’ Allah (AJ) say, ‘Yes, alhamdulillah, Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem.’ Every time we make istighfar, the zikr (Divine Remembrance) of Allah (AJ) back upon us is ‘Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem. In My name of Compassion and Mercy is forgiven.’

So, busy yourself all day long asking istighfar so that Allah (AJ) make zikr of “Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem” upon your soul in which you be dressed from every knowledge of “Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem.” “Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem” is the baab and the door of all ‘uloom and all knowledges. So, that istighfar actually is opening the secrets of knowledges until every cell in you has made a sincere istighfar because every cell is its own universe in you. Every cell in you – you’ve made so much istighfar – every cell in you has made an istighfar and which we call a zero-point energy where you have reduced your energy so much onto the horizon of death in which Allah (AJ) going to raise you into these oceans of Baqa (subsistence). It has its own complete reality.

We said before, you want to be washed before you make salawats. You know, you don’t go as a dirty person running into the presence of Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ. Although we’re all dirty, but at least take a shower. When people don’t understand that, then you think, ‘Oh my God, how are they coming to this zikr?’

You know, in time of Mawlana Shah Naqshband (Q) – 3 times a week, they would do muraqabah (spiritual connection) and all his majlis (associations), they have a hamam (washroom) outside, shower outside, and you put your white clothes there. From wherever you come, before you can enter in his presence, you had to shower. You showered, you put your clothes and then you came into the presence of that Shaykh so that every reflection of energy would be dressed upon you. He wouldn’t be spending the whole time just trying to clean himself from all of the sayyiat of people flying towards them. If that is an adab (manners) for Mawlana Shah Naqshband (Q), imagine the adab for Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ. But people are heedless now. When we talk on adab, they make salawats – it is real. As soon as they’re making salawats, their soul is entering into the presence of Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ. They feel ashamed and shy that that dirtiness is with them. So, all day long they’re making istighfar. Astaghfirullah al-‘Azim, astaghfirullah al-‘Azim until they feel that dirtiness to be lifted from them, their children, their family and their communities. Then they’re coming now, ‘Ya Rabbi, is let me to be sweetened by that presence of Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ.’

Yeah, alhamdulillah. Don’t despair in the mercy of Allah (AJ) – immense. There is not a ni’mat (blessing) that you cannot find. When we did in Ramadan, so many people worried about their salah (daily prayer). ‘Oh, I came into Islam at 40. I came into Islam at 30. Imagine that when you came, Allah (AJ) wiped away all your sins. Then we had that salah that counted for a thousand years of salah. The game is so much in our favour, it is ridiculously amazing.

Yeah, why people then have to make it hard? So, Shaykh Nazim (Q) would say what? ‘Make the doors of paradise as wide as possible.’ Why? Why the wisdom of that? They said that a man had a dream and he was doing good and saying good and doing lots of dawah. He had a dream of his resurrection that he dreamed that he had died and that he was being brought in Allah’s (AJ) Divinely Presence. Allah (AJ) was judging him and began to say everything that he was doing wrong and judgment. Then the servant was starting to cry, cry because he was a good person and he had done good all his life. Then Allah (AJ) says, ‘Why are you crying?’ He said, ‘I expected more. I expected something different.’

Immediately Allah (AJ) changed the whole scenario that, ‘You’ll see Me as how you envisioned Me.’ Allah (AJ) wanted to see something in his heart and he was firm that, ‘I tried my best, ya Rabbi. All these judgement that You’re passing upon me, I told everybody about Your rahmah, about Your love.’ How Allah (AJ) wants to punish the servant who talked about love? So, you talk from love and muhabbat to save your own soul. ‘Ya Rabbi, I don’t know what I’ve done wrong but I told people about Your rahmah. Don’t grab me to throw me into fire.’ That Allah (AJ) be pleased upon how you presented Allah (AJ) to His creation. Allah (AJ), ‘Judge not for you shall be judged.’ All prophets came and warned that how you’re judging? Allah (AJ) will judge you. So, give people the best of news and Allah’s (AJ) rahmah will dress and bless all of you because I’m counting on it the most, inshaAllah.

Subhana rabbika rabbal ‘izzati ‘amma yasifoon, wa salaamun ‘alal mursaleen, walhamdulillahi rabbil ‘aalameen. Bi hurmati Muhammad al-Mustafa ﷺ wa bi siri Surat al-Fatiha.

Special thanks to our transcribers for their help with transcribing this suhbah.

Original Date of Suhbah: June 19, 2020

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